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that enjoys wide support in the public, even among nra gun owners. >> it would not have helped in this case, though. we know that these guns in this particular case, in this tragedy, which is what has really, i think, kind of grabbed people's attention finally, if you will, that would not have made a difference. >> and that's the unfortunate reality of having guns in a free society is that we can't stop all violent acts. but there are some pretty easy measures that are agreed upon by many people, such as having background checks. and that, i think, is a starting point. and then beyond that, we can have discussions. that to me is the best way to do this. >> steven barton, thank you for talking with us this morning. we appreciate it. we saw a lot from the mayors against illegal guns. they've really been leveraging off this issue to make their position known and maybe get some traction for their issues. want to get right back to zoraida sambolin. she's been covering the details of the victims, as john's been mentioning all morning, we really wanted to focus on those who lost their lives and no
of its first steps toward tougher gun laws and it comes as the nra is speaking out for the first time since the tragedy. dan lothian at the white house this morning. let's start with the white house before we get to what the nra is saying. what's the latest there? >> good morning, the latest development is later this morning, the president will announce he's tapping vice president biden to head up an interagency effort to try and come up with policies in order to address gun violence. the president will be making announcement in the white house briefing room. he will be joined by vice president biden. we are told by white house aides that this will be more about the process, rather than laying out any policies, but nonetheless this comes one day after the white house started getting a bit more specific about what the president would support. such as senator feinstein's effort to reinstate that ban on assault weapons. also measures that would address the issue of mental health. all of this coming as the white house has been getting a lot more pressure to come up with some action points
? at what point can citizens say it's taking too long or the nra is slow walking this stuff again? it seems to me every time we say it's going to be different also, that's another similarity. >> we had that same conversation after columbine, which i covered. we had that same conversation after aurora and all the other ones in between. same conversation. >> remember that the first gun assault law, assault weapons law took five years to pass. it was first proposed in 1989 after the stockton shooting and senators metzenbound and feinstein worked on it five years. i'm determined, i'm committed. but the president is absolutely right, that the american people have to stand up. i'll tell you what also is different. i've talked to a lot of these families and i am so impressed by their strength and courage and they say to me we want to be there. we want this work to go forward. >> cnn reported last night that there are tens of thousands of criminals who have lied on their background checks. that the fbi has identified and turned over to the department of justice and they simply haven't been prosecut
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